Alien Invasion Movie Draft (w/ Melvin Benson)

Eli Price (00:04.141)
Hello and welcome to The Establishing Shot, a podcast where we do deep dives into directors and their filmographies. We are on an off week from our director filmography talk. We had a great episode on ET in our early Spielberg series last week. Gonna be jumping into Temple of Doom next week. But for now, we're gonna do a kind of companion piece to ET.

Um, and we're going to do, uh, or something that we do all the time, but, um, if it's your first time tuning in, you might not know what a movie draft is. That's what we're doing. Uh, movie drafts, basically we pick a category. We, uh, choose, uh, movies from that category going back and forth. We're trying, the way I always describe it is it's like, you're trying to pick the best kickball team in the schoolyard. Um, so you want to have the best team.

Kick the ball the farthest so that you can win. But maybe sometimes you pick your best friend because you can't leave your best friend off the team even if they're not any good at kickball. So that's kind of the best analogy I've come up with. And if you're a regular listener, you've heard that a million times. So sorry about that, but you know, you got to...

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (01:26.929)
Hehehe

Eli Price (01:29.357)
help the new listeners too. But I have our guest from last week back on with me, Melvin Benson of the Cinematic Doctrine podcast. Melvin, it's good to have you back. How are you doing? Yeah, hanging out.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (01:42.27)
Yeah, glad to be back hanging out, ready to wrang in, ready to have the better lineup of movies than you do.

Eli Price (01:48.641)
I love it. I love it when people come on and like start trash talking. This is my favorite. So yeah, the last draft that it released as the time of this recording was our creature features draft and Daniel, my guest for that podcast, had the same trash talk and he ended up beating me. So hopefully there's not a repeat here.

Um, yeah, so we're going to go back and forth. We're going to be drafting. I don't even think I've, did I mention that it's an alien invasions movie draft yet? I don't know if I mentioned it, but that's yes, it is. ET is technically ET is technically an alien invasion movie. It's not just a, it's a, you know, benevolent invasion. Um, so, um,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (02:25.29)
You said it was a companion piece to the ET stuff, so I think possibly, but even I don't remember now. Oh my gosh.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (02:36.557)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (02:43.285)
But yeah, so ET is going to be our, our honorable mention, our official honorable mention, um, and, uh, it's going to be off the board set aside as the inspiration for the draft, uh, but all other alien invasion movies are on the table. Um, I, I didn't say close encounters is off the table, so we, you know, I didn't plan on picking it. I don't, I don't, I'm assuming you're not planning on picking it either, but, um,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (03:12.558)
Who knows?

Eli Price (03:13.333)
Maybe, maybe, maybe it'll show up. Who knows? Um, yeah. So Melvin is first time. Well, I guess technically now second time guests, but first time doing a movie, movie draft with me. So he, he's going to get the first pick and, uh, yeah, let's, let's jump right into it. We're picking alien invasion. So this just the, the only stipulation is it's an alien invasion movie. So it's only movies where aliens are invading earth.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (03:40.93)
Yes.

Eli Price (03:42.145)
Um, it's not so like ridley scott's alien not on the table because it's all in space star wars not on the table because it's aliens. Yes, but they're not coming to invade earth. So um, that's really the only like Stipulation that's probably worth mentioning of you're like, why are they not picking aliens like well because it's not an invasion movie Um, uh, but yeah melvin, why don't you kick us off with the first pick where are you going?

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (03:47.102)
Not on Earth.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (04:03.441)
Because it's not on Earth.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (04:12.118)
Well, once you said that I was going first, then I was like, oh, okay. Well, I know I have to pick first. It's obviously the thing. Like you can't not pick the thing. Um, so yeah, I was like, I have to do it. Um, yeah, for people who are listening on audio, they, they don't know. I have a collection of my wife got me. Uh, well, so we go to local screenings all the time and they will do partnerships with a local artists to do.

Eli Price (04:19.729)
Great. It's right behind you.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (04:40.374)
pictures for that. And then she also got posters that were custom prints. And one of them is the thing. Um, and then it's a really cool design. Uh, yeah, obviously the thing, the thing is a great movie. It's beautiful looking. The music is excellent. The atmosphere is stellar. The effects are truly unbelievable stuff. Um, it's, it's a great piece of film. Um, it'll blow your mind. Yeah, it is.

Eli Price (04:41.93)
Mm, that's cool.

Eli Price (05:04.493)
They're horrifying.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (05:08.85)
It is shocking. Um, some effects look silly, some effects look great, but it's like, in terms of silly, it's like, cause it's obviously a mannequin. Yes. Yeah. Um, it's, it is great artistry. Um, so absolutely had to put the thing on there and then, yeah, a film continually talked about, uh, because of Carpenter's love of ambiguous endings. And so, um, absolutely, absolutely have to recommend the thing for my number one.

Eli Price (05:11.644)
Oh my gosh.

Eli Price (05:15.485)
Even the silly ones are like unsettling. Um, so yeah.

Eli Price (05:29.652)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (05:33.215)
Yes.

Eli Price (05:36.861)
Yes, great choice. John Carpenter, not a stranger to alien invasion movies. But yeah, I think the thing is his best as far as that goes. I haven't seen all of his films, but yeah. And I took it in the creature feature draft. So, you know, I'm glad it's getting represented in this draft, because.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (05:42.854)
No.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (05:49.614)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (05:59.36)
haha

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (06:04.259)
Good.

Eli Price (06:04.397)
I was like, well, I'm not going to pick it in two drafts. And I'm pretty sure Melvin's going to pick it because, uh, he has the poster of it. So, uh, yeah, the thing is really just a great movie. Um, same year as ET2. We talked about that in 1982, the thing and ET. Um, so yeah, very different. Maybe it's, um, yeah. Uh, so my pick, um, is up.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (06:08.72)
Uh-huh.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (06:12.406)
Hehehe

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (06:18.146)
So good. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (06:34.305)
The Thing is definitely like one of, it's in my top tier of options. Um, but there's one that I do like more is a much more recent film. Um, and I'm going to pick, uh, Denis Villeneuve's, uh, Arrival. Um, I love Arrival. I just think it's an incredibly made movie. I don't want to say too much about it because if you haven't seen it, then if I talk about it for too long, then.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (06:52.226)
Good pick. Yeah.

Eli Price (07:03.785)
It'll, you know, give away the best surprises about the movie. Um, so go watch arrival. It's incredibly shot. The, the alien designs are just like phenomenal and like kind of unlike. Any other aliens I've ever seen in a movie. So that's unique. Um, great acting with Amy Adams, like, um, emotionally like moving and touching and just like, just all around.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (07:08.066)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (07:19.607)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (07:34.177)
great movie.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (07:35.242)
Yes, if you want your mood changed, this is a movie for it too. This is a really good one.

Eli Price (07:39.581)
Yes. Yeah. Where are you going next?

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (07:43.942)
All right. I, I think, I think your description of it being like kickball and you have to sometimes pick your friend too. I was like, yeah, there are some things here on my list. I was like, I have to like me and my wife kind of, it is so good. Um, man, like, like you, you sometimes you even know you don't want them to cause you're ready to win, but you're like, I gotta do it. Um, but you know, listeners, if they know a good time.

Eli Price (07:56.991)
It's a great analogy, huh?

Eli Price (08:04.341)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (08:11.65)
They're going to really enjoy this. Uh, my wife and I love this movie. It's a ton of fun. We even held a party during Christmas to watch this one. It's called feeders to sleigh bells. Um, this is in the vein of the world of gremlins and critters, but if gremlins and critters were at the top feeders is 12,000 steps below on the bottom. This is from the Polonia brothers. They do an obscene degree of, or at the time when they were brothers, cause I believe one of them passed away, um, a couple of years ago, but

They did a lot of DIY filmmaking shot on video, resident PA people, the best movies are shot in PA. And these little tiny aliens called feeders come to earth to feed on man. Feeders 1 is fine, it has a lot of dead space, but the design of the feeders are so cute and they're very funny.

And they jump around like Muppets, uh, and they're just, they're just tons of fun. Um, and there's some awful dialogue about like two dudes picking up babes. Where are the girls? And then these feeders show up and there's like one scene where they're running from the aliens and they get into a house and look up and then the one character is like, uh, says something like, everyone's going to be praying. God, what's happening?

And then the other guy just says something like, God can't hear anybody tonight. It's like it's really so dumb. But the first one has some good stuff, but mostly boring. Second one, way better. So much funnier. One of the puppets were destroyed in the first movie, so only one of the good puppets makes it into the second. That's OK. They've made new puppets. And you can practically see that they made them from stuff from Michael's.

Eli Price (09:44.575)
Uh...

Eli Price (09:59.757)
That's great.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (10:03.37)
Um, yeah, feeders too. It's probably on to be, it'll be there forever. Check it out. Feeders to sleigh bells.

Eli Price (10:07.125)
Yeah, yeah, I just looked at it. It is on Tubi and I think it was on something else like Voodoo Free or something like that. Yeah, you should mention it's Sleighbells S-L-A-Y.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (10:14.442)
Yeah, it's I love it. We we love this movie.

Yes. Yeah. The murder kind. So, yeah, don't trust the cover. They don't look as cool as they do on the cover. Um, but they, they do look better and they squeak and they're stupid. It's just awesome. It's such a good movie. So yeah, the thing and feeders too, so far, that's what I got.

Eli Price (10:37.933)
great I love it I I'm kind of torn I have a few movies I'm looking at and but I also want to like make sure I'm getting a good variety of movies I'll go ahead and go with the number two option I have on my list and I'm gonna go with it's funny because I'm picking two directors that currently have like big

And I'm gonna go with Alex Garland's annihilation It is Which I don't think that's a spoiler. I'm you see like yeah the opening scene you see something landing from outer space So yeah, cuz when I was when I was like making this list I was like is it gonna be a spoiler to make annihilation and alien invasion, but then I like

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (11:11.99)
Oh, yes, that is an alien movie. That's right.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (11:19.43)
Opening scene of the movie.

Eli Price (11:34.933)
watched the opening part of the movie and I was like, oh, it's right at the beginning. It's not a spoiler. It's visually just like really similar to the thing, not in the sense of like what it's like actually like doing visually, but just like in the sense of like really strange, disturbing imagery. Full of it. There's this bear sequence that's like

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (11:38.75)
Yeah, right at the start. Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (12:00.235)
Yes.

Eli Price (12:04.829)
super disturbing and weird both like visually and audibly. And basically like there's this thing that lands from outer space. It creates this like they call it the shipper. And it's like this area that when you walk into it biologically, everything is doing weird stuff in there. And yeah, it's the reason I like it is because

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (12:28.148)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (12:33.417)
It is a true sci-fi film in the sense that it raises a million questions, but doesn't really answer any of them. Um, which is like a perfect sci-fi movie for me. So, uh, Natalie Portman's great in it. Um, yeah, I did annihilation. It's just, you gotta see it. The visuals alone are worth, worth watching and yeah, love annihilation. So that's where I'm going next.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (12:40.888)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (13:02.45)
And secondly to that, um, I've, I've read the book and it's a good like companion piece in the sense that like, so the book is the original source material and, um, the, the book and the movie are very different. Um, they still have this zone. They have zone X like that's still a thing. Um, but like the lead characters of kind of the, actually the team in general is pretty different. Um, but a lot of the same vibe is there.

Eli Price (13:07.338)
Mmm.

Eli Price (13:17.689)
That's what I've heard.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (13:30.01)
Um, so annihilation still works on its own as something influenced by the, the movie annihilation still works on its own as like a development. But if, um, if you're interested in a stupendously introspective, lonely book, um, that has a lot to do about with somebody who can't seem to figure out how to integrate with the world. Um, and then is entering a zone that is perpetually integrating so well that it's actually dangerous.

Eli Price (13:52.59)
Mm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (13:59.562)
Um that it's a very good book. It's also super short. It's like really short. So Yeah, it makes for a good film

Eli Price (13:59.608)
Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. I might have to check that out. Yeah. The ending of Annihilation 2 is just like so incredibly odd. And like, yeah, I love it.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (14:15.05)
Yeah. Yeah, it's cool stuff. Um, okay. So number three, where am I going? Um, so I did the thing and that is it features too. So that was like, you know, a great movie and then like a personal fun movie. Let's try and see it. Do I have another great movie on here? Most of these are fun movies. I'll do kind of a mix. I'll do a movie that I thought was really good. Um, that is also a movie I connected with.

Eli Price (14:21.821)
You tell me. I don't know.

Eli Price (14:36.188)
Ha ha.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (14:42.31)
Uh, last year, uh, an invasion movie came out on Hulu called no one will save you. Um, the premise, uh, did you, did you ever end up seeing this one? Yeah. So, so this one, um, kind of sold the idea on people were selling the idea on like, oh, there's no dialogue in this movie. There's no dialogue in this movie. It's an alien invasion movie. Cause the main character, um, is might be deaf or mute. We don't know. It's just, I can't quite remember if they set anything up, but she just doesn't talk.

Eli Price (14:48.601)
Okay, yeah.

I did.

Eli Price (15:10.681)
She doesn't, yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (15:11.702)
And, uh, then her house is invaded. Like she, she is just someone who seems to like do crafts and like maybe sells stuff she's living on her own just fine. But then the house is invaded and then she gets out of the house and tries to tell somebody, but, uh, there seems to be some sort of fear that she has about like going into the neighborhood.

Even the mailman isn't like nice to her, which when he drops off the package and they, I couldn't quite tell if that was a joke on mailman, like, cause I know Amazon drivers are a mix of either overworked and we should feel bad for them, but also they just keep throwing my packages over the fence. So I don't know if I should like that or not. Uh, but please it's a collector's item. Don't do that. But, um, there's a lot of in, in that limitation in that, uh,

Eli Price (15:41.538)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (16:06.182)
idea, there's a lot of really creative ways in which the director then has to share stuff with you. And not all of it is perfect, but where it goes, in my opinion, is extremely rewarding to the point that I went from the film being just enjoyable and kind of good and like having some neat things to being an absolute favorite of mine by the ending. And I was like, Oh, well, this is going to be in the top five or top 10 of that year. And so yeah, I really liked this movie.

Eli Price (16:12.641)
Yeah.

Eli Price (16:27.833)
Mm.

Eli Price (16:32.503)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (16:36.47)
Um, I think I remember thinking like it visually wasn't as appealing as I wished it was since it's such a quieter movie, but then like, I kept seeing like appreciation posts for the cinematography. I'm like, what the heck? I was wrong. And so now I'm going to have to watch it again, but, uh, yeah, I definitely got to put this here. It is on Hulu. Yeah. So definitely, definitely great.

Eli Price (16:41.977)
Sure.

Eli Price (16:51.689)
Yeah. I think it's on Hulu. Yeah. When it went straight to Hulu, which I think it was unfortunate because I didn't, I didn't go for this movie. Um, I kind of feel opposite. I feel like it was really like great in like the tension building and like, it was very intriguing with like what it was doing with her not talking and stuff.

And like where you felt like it just like blossomed at the end. I felt like it kind of like went off a cliff and it just didn't connect with me. And I almost wonder. Yeah. I almost wonder if it, if it would have, if I would have seen it in theaters, but it just didn't go to theaters. It went straight to Hulu.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (17:26.346)
It gets absurd. Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (17:34.346)
Yeah. Which keeps happening with Hulu. Like why was I'm praying in theaters? That would have done Gangbusters, I feel like, at theaters. Which is half of the reason why I think Alien Romulus is in theaters. Probably Contract really pushed that there. Also, current conditioning is saying that actually, it's probably best to put your movies in theaters. Who could have guessed? But no one will save you. Having that atmosphere probably would have made being in theaters a lot more exciting with the like.

Eli Price (17:39.901)
Yeah. Yes.

Eli Price (17:47.481)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (17:53.546)
Yeah, who would have thought?

Eli Price (17:59.479)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (18:03.222)
Like, uh-oh, it's more than one alien. That's not really a spoiler for an invasion movie. So like when more of these things are happening, like the audio and the visuals of all that could have been cool. Also sidebar at the dancing alien meme from a couple of years ago, basically happens in the movie because the aliens communicate that way too. So, uh, so that's fun. But yeah, that's, that's what I got for number three.

Eli Price (18:24.573)
Yeah, it's, it's definitely where I like, I say, I didn't really go for it. It wasn't my favorite, but I also, there's people, including Melvin that like really went for it, that I usually respect their opinions. So I'm like, maybe I'm just wrong about this one. So it's definitely what, and it's worth seeing. It's yeah, it's, it's worth seeing. Like it's, um, it's doing a lot of interesting things and, um, yeah. And you can just open Hulu and watch it. So.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (18:42.73)
I think it's personal.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (18:54.954)
It's short too, like 90 minutes. It's not that long. Me too. I got stuff to do.

Eli Price (18:55.325)
Um, yes. Oh, I love a good 90 minute movie. Um, uh, yes. And so on that note, let's diversify and go with the 80 minute movie and the 1956 invasion of the body snatchers, which, um, I caught up with in preparation for this draft, um,

I always use these drafts as like excuses to catch up with movies that have been on my watch list. And so caught up with this about a week ago and I was just, I was just like really blown away by how like intriguing and like captivating this movie is. Because it's a, it's a, like on the like.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (19:22.958)
to watch more.

Eli Price (19:47.005)
You hear the premise of the movie and you're like, Oh, kind of corny, whatever. Um, but if you just like jump into the movie, start watching it, it's like super captivating and very like intriguing. And, um, but basically the premise is there's these people, there's this doctor, he's coming back from a trip to his small town and he's encountering a person or two that is like, Hey,

My uncle is, I don't think he's really my uncle. He has all of his memories. He speaks the same way my uncle would speak. There's no like visible, visible or audible or mental difference, but I can just tell he's not my uncle. And so he starts digging into this and, you know, it's called invasion of the body snatchers. They're not exactly like hiding what's going on in the movie with the title. Um,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (20:45.214)
Yeah.

Eli Price (20:47.137)
But just like the way it explores it is just like really good. The, um, Kevin McCarthy is the lead actor here and he's just like really great in the movie. Um, and, um, yeah, I feel like I would have given it five stars if it drags a bit at the end and I feel like if it would have it's yeah, yeah. And so I, I still, I gave it four and a half stars, um, nine out of 10.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (21:08.914)
80 minutes and it drags, that is a problem.

Eli Price (21:17.417)
Um, but that was like my one critique is like, I felt like they could have like wrapped it up. I mean, I don't think they needed to cut like 20 minutes or anything, but, but a good, like five, eight minutes probably and make the end a little bit tighter. And it would have just like been perfect. Um, but yeah, invasion of the body snatchers. There was, there's, I haven't seen there's like a 70 something remake of it. That's apparently like really good too. Um,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (21:27.534)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (21:44.61)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (21:45.557)
It has like Leonard Nimoy and some other more like well-known actors. Um, but yeah, I'm taking the original 56 version that I really enjoyed.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (21:57.318)
Okay. All right. So where am I going to go next? I'd be remiss not to mention this one. This is a movie that when I started dating my wife, she showed me and I had a lot of fun with and it is Killer Clowns from Outer Space. This movie is definitely a cult classic and I would say it's probably like if you had an iceberg challenge of cult classics, it's definitely at the top.

A lot of people know Killer Clones from Outer Space. It's an easy name to remember. It's absurd and silly parts of the movie. It's cheese. That's like, it's like, um, if you buy like cheddar cheese, that's like fresh. That's sort of an oxymoron, but for most people that's like what they endure. I like cult classics that are age for a couple of years. So I like the sharp, sharp cheddar.

Eli Price (22:46.221)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (22:53.21)
Um, but killer clowns really is worthy of its, of its, uh, known status. Um, I just, uh, local theater nearby, I keep mentioning it. I'm just, this is what I do. Um, but like they did a sci-fi film fast where they just screened a ton of sci-fi films and their double feature during one night was Mars attack, uh, Mars attacks. And then killer clowns obviously went to both Mars attacks was sold out. And I love that movie so much.

Eli Price (23:18.393)
bizarre.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (23:22.002)
Uh, it's so funny. Um, and then killer clowns after that. And of course, both, both theaters were packed. Um, and yeah, premises is opens just like the blob people kissing and make out reef and then they see a star fall and they go check it out, um, and make out reef, I guess that's actually SpongeBob. I don't remember what it's called in the blob. Um, but they go to check it out, uh, and in its place.

Eli Price (23:28.793)
That's great.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (23:48.634)
is not a fallen star, but a circus tent. And then they go inside and it's circus tent stuff and they find cotton candy. And then they find things and then a clown kills somebody. Uh, so like just right away, there are these really ugly Chioda brother design clowns, purposely ugly. Cause if you're a fan of the Chioda brothers, they do like their snarling.

Eli Price (23:58.351)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (24:13.11)
leathery, wrinkly creatures. And it's all a lot of fun. I think the movie has some downtime. But the joy of the film is its gags are continually creative and continues to play on the fact that it's like circus stuff. There's people die through silhouettes, people die through popcorn, people die through cotton. They just there's a great gag with a pie where like they all grab these pies and the one person on the entire.

Universal plane who does not know what a pie is used for says, Hey, what are you going to do with those pies? And then proceeds to be hit with pies. So, yeah, it's if you're if you're watching this with friends and like, maybe you're even a movie person and you're watching it with non movie people, everyone in the room still going to have a good time. Even that guy in the room who insisted it's a bad movie, you'll look at him and he'll be smiling. So it's a yeah, that's absolutely my number four killer clowns from outer space.

Eli Price (24:55.801)
Man.

Eli Price (25:11.681)
Yeah. It's like a, it sounds like a classic version of like a good bad movie. Uh, yeah. Which you've got to love. Um, man, uh, that's great. I've never seen killer clowns from outer space, but thanks to Melvin, I'm at least like considering checking it out. So, um, it's, uh, I looked it up. It's, it's, it's streaming on Prime. So there you go.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (25:18.238)
Yes. Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (25:34.504)
My weird selection of movies.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (25:40.33)
It's so fun.

Eli Price (25:41.205)
Man, Mars Attacks, man, great. I took that in a recent draft too. I took it, it hasn't aired yet, but we did a director's flops draft. And yeah, went with that one. Okay, I'm gonna, I have some movies I like more than the ones I'm hoping to get, one of which I'm gonna take right now.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (25:51.958)
That's definitely one.

Eli Price (26:11.033)
Definitely getting it. Diversifying my list a little more, let's get some comedy in there. And I'm going to go with The World's End. Edgar Wright's movie starring Simon Pegg and Nick Frost, Martin Freeman. Have you ever seen The World's End?

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (26:30.558)
It's the only one of those three I haven't seen. Yeah, I hear it's really good.

Eli Price (26:32.989)
Oh man, it's so great. Yeah. Um, it's just like, it starts off like just as like a pub crawl comedy. And then like Edgar writes like, okay, now aliens. And it just gets like really weird and like progressively gets like weirder and weirder and like, but stays like funny too. Um, and you know, is obviously like.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (26:43.022)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (26:56.619)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (27:02.953)
like his other movies, kind of like his other like British comedies, like also like digging into like the, you know, the paths of the characters, um, something he does really well then like reckoning with their pasts. Um, and like the whole reason they're doing the pub crawl is because they used to do it like in college or whatever, and they're older now and they're trying to relive their past. So it's like all that stuff is there, but, um,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (27:14.518)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (27:31.902)
That's funny.

Eli Price (27:32.493)
But it's just like a funny movie that's like bizarre and fun. And probably not like the sort of movie like Killer Clowns from Outer Space, where it's like a good bad movie. Like a lot of people do say this is a good movie. But in the same vein of like you're watching it because it's bizarre and a fun time. And so yeah, World's End. Really enjoyed it.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (27:43.937)
No

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (27:50.296)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (28:02.671)
And it gets me a comedy on my list. So gonna go with that.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (28:08.246)
Yeah, I'm having a hard time figuring out cause now I haven't had anything crossed out from what you've done. So now I just still have an open list of movies to look at. Yes. I've actually been writing next to some like HM just so I can focus on them at other spots. Um, Oh man. And then there's even some that you almost feel inclined to mention out of cred. Like, Oh yeah, I know this and I've seen it.

Eli Price (28:16.608)
Well, plenty of honorable mentions then.

Eli Price (28:22.785)
Hehehehehe

Eli Price (28:32.287)
Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (28:35.134)
Or I even own it on DVD, but then I've like, I've seen it and it wasn't even great, so like, it's like, I'm not going to do that one. All right. I think I will finish out with.

This was one of the first ones I thought of doing. I think I'm going to commit to it. Um, I have championed this middling movie. It's not even great. I just don't think it's as bad as everyone thinks it is. Go back and rewatch Alien versus Predator. That is my number five. I think this movie is the quintessential. I'm doing laundry. What's on sci fi? Oh, this is on.

Okay. It's only 20 minutes in. All right. I didn't miss anything. I'm going to watch it now. It is the peak of that quality of movie. Um, this movie is not rated R, which is one of the biggest criticisms that the film had when it came out. It is a PG 13 smashed together versus film that is not rated R.

from two franchises that are very rated R in terms of violence. Uh, and it's sometimes sexuality, at least with predator, cause predator too, just such a wild movie. Um, but it is, I think still kind of fun. Um, I think the movie, I think Paul WS Anderson is an odd director who at least has a lot of fun with filmmaking and doing fun things that I don't think everybody gets, um, and that's okay.

Eli Price (29:45.845)
Right.

Eli Price (30:05.081)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (30:11.574)
because his movies still make a lot of money. And Alien vs. Predator, I think it's good. But about the film, it turns out that in the Arctic, the Predators have a temple where they have kept a frozen alien queen to then do this tournament where they would birth aliens and fight them. And a couple of humans have stumbled upon it.

Eli Price (30:28.386)
Ooh.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (30:35.27)
Um, there are minor connections to the alien franchise with Weyland Yutani. They don't make any sense because how would BV alive then if he's supposed to be alive like thousands of years or 200 years later, I don't know. Um, but it doesn't matter. Um, and yeah, I think this movie's, I think it's got some cool action. It's practical effects are okay where they are. And I think they're pretty neat too. Um, it has cool stuff in it. Like the predator still is cool. And.

Eli Price (30:41.177)
Thanks for watching!

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (31:04.886)
There's still things that like feel like they don't feel right. Um, I know some people debate about the setting cause they feel like. It just doesn't feel like the, where the predator would fight, but I think a lot of this stuff is pretty cool. Um, yeah, I think it's an accessible, comfy, easy watching movie. Um, and so I think like that that's where it fits in. I think a lot of my movies are a weird mix of like intent movies, but I think AVP alien predator is, is a good way to finalize that list.

Eli Price (31:35.437)
Yeah, it's one that I'm not even sure if I've seen all of it, but I know I've seen some of it on TV at some point back in the day. Yeah, no, yeah. I mean, like 2004 is like prime, like watch it on cable when it comes on time. And so I definitely like, I definitely saw at least some of it on TV at some point. I know.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (31:43.798)
So I described it correctly.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (31:53.344)
Yeah, yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (32:00.451)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (32:02.649)
But yeah, I'm not sure I've ever watched it all the way through. I really enjoy the Alien, and even like Alien 3, which is like, definitely not a very good film, I still enjoyed watching. And so I could see this being a similar thing, like, okay, is this a good film? Maybe not, but did I have fun watching it? Yeah, absolutely.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (32:19.35)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (32:32.585)
Um, that's how, that's how, that's how I've been telling people, like, uh, just, just like go to theaters and watch Godzilla Kong, uh, because it's, because it's really fun. Like, um, like, is it like peak cinema? It's like, well, no, but like, you're going to have fun. Like, um, and you know, alien, alien versus predator, another

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (32:41.93)
Yeah, because it's fun. It's a wrestling movie. That's what it is.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (32:55.371)
Yeah.

Eli Price (33:01.529)
two iconic creatures fighting. So, yeah, I like the pic, it's fun. I have two movies, well, I mean, I have a few that I like more, but I'm debating between two that I like technically less, they're low on my list, but I like to diversify. One, I'll just leave for honorable mention because...

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (33:11.309)
Nice.

Eli Price (33:28.957)
This pick is gonna like win me the draft, I think. And it's one that I really, really like. I'm trying to see, I'm trying to pull up something as I'm saying it, but this is gonna win me the draft. Sorry, Melvin, but I'm picking Lilo and Stitch.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (33:35.131)
Wow. OK. What is it?

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (33:45.628)
Okay.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (33:50.082)
That actually could win you the draft. People love Lilo and Stitch.

Eli Price (33:53.85)
because, because I, I have memories of being, um, let's see, what year is this? 2002. So I have memories of being a early middle school and walking around with my friends, doing stitch imitations, um, because it was fun and I liked making like weird imitations of things and still kind of do, um,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (34:21.835)
Hehehe

Eli Price (34:22.061)
But now I have an excuse because I have kids so I can do it for them and it's not too weird. But yeah, I have memories of loving this. Me and my wife actually did this thing. It took us like several years to finish, but we started with Snow White and watched chronologically through all the Disney animated classics. And we actually just watched Wish like a week or two ago when it

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (34:26.11)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (34:45.902)
That's cool.

Eli Price (34:50.841)
started on when it came to streaming. So we're officially caught up with all 62 of them and that we watched in chronological order together. And we both made like rankings list as we watched through it. And Leeloo & Stitch is like is number eight on my list of the 62. So really love this movie. So I'm not just picking it because it's gonna win me the draft, but that's a good side reason to pick it.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (34:52.875)
Mm-hmm.

That's cool.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (35:03.376)
Awesome.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (35:20.43)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (35:20.941)
Um, but yeah, lovely low and stitch. It's, um, it's probably. Yeah. All the ones I've picked. Well, I don't want to give anything away. I'm not going to say if there's another movie that's a benevolent alien, um, thing going on. Uh, but yeah. Um, if you know, you know what I'm talking about from my list. Um, I'll just say that another, another less than 90 minute movie, 85 minutes of just.

pure cuteness and fun and beautiful Hawaiian animation. So, yeah. Lilo and Stitch to round out the draft. And now before I read out the results, let's do some honorable mentions. Melvin, what you got?

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (35:59.243)
Yeah, that's a good one.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (36:12.658)
Yeah. So I, I'll mention all the ones that I had least written down. Um, so like a couple other movies I had were like, I wrote down laser blasts. It's a, you know, one of the first, one of the classic, uh, co-classics of bad movies, um, it's very bad, uh, basically an alien comes in to earth and like attacks people, but then you watch the movie and that barely happens.

And basically it's a movie of nothing happening. There's even like a scene where the protagonist who is so limp in the whole film and so inactive is like, he is like sunbathing at like a pool and you never see this woman it's like chest, but she has topless and like a cost and like tries to, tries to get his attention and he kind of just looks up and then he just like falls back asleep.

So you're just watching the movie like, what are you doing, dude? Don't you know what the movie logic is supposed to be next? Your eyeballs are supposed to pop out. Your tongue is supposed to unroll like a scroll. So it's just like it's really dumb. And so like the whole movie's stupid. He at one point gets the laser gun and he drives past a sign that is advertising Star Wars and he angrily shoots at it. So like, I don't know why the director had beef with Star Wars, but his movie sucks. And so.

Eli Price (37:30.521)
That's funny. It's the year after Star Wars, 1978.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (37:33.526)
It is this movie is bad, but it's like it's got it's a notorious classic of that kind of vein of like an alien invasion movie that just sucks. So I just figured I'd toss that one in. Mars Attacks was on my list, too. I did not like it that much. The first time I watched, I just didn't find it funny. And then I watched it a second time just literally to kill some time and I couldn't stop laughing. And then when I saw it in theaters, it was so funny.

Eli Price (37:37.945)
Yeah.

Eli Price (37:47.882)
Yeah, great.

Eli Price (37:57.889)
Yeah. Mars attacks. You know, I don't know what it was, but like, I feel like if I would have been in a different mood, I would have like hated watching it, but I was just like, I jumped in and I was kind of like in a silly mood already and like, man, I like, I laughed. It's just like outrageous. Like everything that happens is just completely like bonkers. Um, but it's like totally aware of that. Um,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (38:11.37)
Oh, good. Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (38:20.268)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (38:25.038)
It's, yeah, yeah. It's, I think Tim Burton is a noted cynical director. I think Tim Burton's problem is he's cynical and he often thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. I know that's a reclaimed to make, but I think that that's what his films communicate to me. Smart Attacks feels like a good version of that because it has some cynicism. Like that's the whole thing. And it does have a smartness to it, but it,

Eli Price (38:41.205)
Yeah. Mars attacks doesn't feel like that to me though.

Eli Price (38:48.713)
Right. Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (38:54.69)
But it's all like, I'm on the same side. Like I want to see Vegas crumble. I want to see the Senate be burnt. Like it is, yeah, to me, like all of it works. Whereas like when it doesn't work, I think it, it rubs people the wrong way. Um, so that was on the list. They live, of course was on the list because I carpenter, but I didn't. It's, it's really good. Um, I think it's, it's very testosterone heavy, um, which is typical of carpenter, he's a very testosterone director.

Eli Price (38:57.105)
Yeah, we're all laughing together.

Eli Price (39:07.897)
Sure.

Eli Price (39:11.881)
Yeah, I haven't seen that. Yeah.

Eli Price (39:19.005)
Okay. Sure.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (39:22.914)
vampires, the classic movie that are the classic boys movie for boys. Um, but that they live was their critters. Uh, I already mentioned it in the. Uh, ET episode because obviously with D Bradley, uh, but, um, D Bradley, I might say that's D that's the other, no, I just combined D Wallace, the mom of cinema with pinhead. Cause I was trying to think of that. What's his day? Um, anyways.

Eli Price (39:40.088)
D Wallace.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (39:52.174)
Uh, so critters was on there cause it's basically, you know, uh, gremlins knockoff, although I think it was being developed before gremlins. I can't remember, but it was during then.

Eli Price (39:57.463)
Right.

Eli Price (40:00.829)
Yeah, I've heard something about that before, yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (40:04.598)
But, uh, there's of course that connection. My, my true, my true real honorable mentions though. Um, cause those were just what I didn't get into, um, where the vast of night, uh, 2019 movie came out kind of. Yeah, this one. It's a, it's like the spot that like, so, so every year a new invasion movie comes out, like there, there's a new alien invasion movie, like, cause we'll get them forever.

Eli Price (40:17.101)
Yes, that was the other one I was debating there at the end, just to like, just to put it out there, because...

Eli Price (40:29.721)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (40:34.618)
And like this was the one in 20, it went to streaming in 2020. Um, or at the very least, I think it went to wide release in 2020, cause it really debuted in 2019. Um, but vast of night, I think is a great understated film. Um, it has so much to talk about like under heard people, because all the people that these, these two kids, um, who have some of the best dialogue and banter in a film, um,

Eli Price (40:55.618)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (41:02.333)
Yeah, it's very like noir, like forties noir style dialogue. Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (41:06.134)
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Um, these two people, they, they basically do communication work. The one works for like, um, telephones when you had to like literally manually connect people's phones to each other, like through the database at a, whatever it's called, I don't know. Uh, and then like the other person's like, uh, I think like a school journalist, the two of them hear about a potential alien invasion from a neighbor.

Eli Price (41:19.277)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (41:31.993)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (41:32.042)
And so then they go to communicate with a radio DJ and then they go to interview someone else. And you're just hearing these stories from like, I think it's very pointedly like a minority and like an old woman. So just people that are left over in a society telling these stories that are really extravagant but so real to them. And then you're left in the audience thinking, is this a real alien invasion or not? And are these people telling the truth?

Eli Price (41:44.473)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (41:52.107)
Yeah.

Eli Price (41:59.298)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (41:59.506)
Uh, it's, it's a challenging thought provoking movie that when it ends, you'll think about it later, even if when you were watching it, you thought it was just okay. Um, and then the other one was.

Eli Price (42:04.641)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (42:09.089)
Yeah, I want to revisit that one. Um, I w I was, cause I have rated like three and a half stars or seven out of 10 and I feel like, but it's lingered in my mind and I feel like if I revisited it, it would definitely go up. Yeah. Um, and I think it's a Hulu movie too. We've been, I guess Hulu does some good, like straight to Hulu. Is it prime? Okay. You might be right.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (42:13.438)
It's great.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (42:24.555)
Skyrocket.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (42:31.87)
I think that one's prime. But the other one, well, actually, the other one isn't Hulu that I was going to read. The other of the two was significant other. This one's on Paramount+. This one's like 72 minutes. That's excluding credits. Credits are a little longer. Another one of the classic, Michael Monroe being stalked by somebody type movies. Michael Monroe and her boyfriend.

Eli Price (42:47.455)
Okay.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (42:59.03)
go off to go hiking, the boyfriend proposes and she denies him. But she says, not because I don't love you, but because I'm not the kind of girlfriend who wants to get married. And it's because of her past. And so then he's like, okay. Cause that's hard for him because he's the kind of boyfriend who wants to get married. Um, and then the movie continues. And at some point, Michael Monroe inexplicably pushes him off of a cliff and he dies. But then.

Eli Price (43:27.001)
Hello?

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (43:29.43)
He comes back. And the movie does a whole lot of like playing with pros and what do people know? And it is, it is some of the most like thrilling, bizarre, mind bending, 72 minutes you'll ever watch. Um, it occasionally has some comedy, so it has everything drama, horror, and comedy. So check it out. Significant other. This was a really big surprise for me.

I knew I was going to like it because I liked all the actors and the people in it and the premise. But like when it ended, I was like, wow, that was excellent. So check it out. This one's good.

Eli Price (44:01.209)
Sure.

Eli Price (44:05.877)
Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Definitely sounds intriguing. Um, yeah, I didn't, I haven't really heard much about that. It looks like it's on Paramount Plus from what I'm seeing. Um, yeah, I, for, for my honor roll mentions, um, one, I did not consider it cause I also drafted it in the creature features draft. I realized when I was prepping for this, I was like, Oh, I drafted to

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (44:17.228)
Yes.

Eli Price (44:35.061)
my favorite like alien invasion movies in the creature feature draft and that is Jordan Peele's nope which I love another one that is I love just because I love Wes Anderson Asteroid City is kind of like a understated alien invasion movie

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (44:39.28)
Darn. Great one.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (44:57.082)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (45:05.589)
Um, I is one I want to revisit because I loved district nine, but it's been so long since I've seen it, um, you know, probably like over a decade since I've seen it, so I didn't draft it cause I just don't, I haven't seen it since then. So I just, I don't. Yeah. So I didn't, I didn't draft it just because like, I don't even remember.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (45:14.67)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (45:21.17)
Yeah, them.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (45:24.962)
2008 like that was an old one now at this point

Eli Price (45:33.089)
why I loved it so much. So, but I wanted to mention it. Of course there's a quiet place. Oh yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (45:35.586)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (45:46.19)
I don't think either of us even remembered to mention this, but The Day the Earth Stood Still, the original one. Bad movies. Oh, thank goodness. Good.

Eli Price (45:51.525)
Yes, I was actually about to mention that I caught up with that one. I caught up with that one just the other day. Yeah, it's really good. I didn't like it's a 50s movie to kind of like a huge influence on like sci fi because it came out in 1951. Really innovative for its time. Really good special effects.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (46:06.912)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (46:11.563)
Yes.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (46:19.71)
Yeah. The initial invasion looks great. It sounds great. It's haunting. It's a good moment.

Eli Price (46:20.725)
And yeah, the design of the ship and like how it opens and stuff is like really cool and like pretty like seamlessly executed in the edit. And then like acting is good. Like I think that it's a it can you could argue it's a little bit overstated and like on the nose, but still like pretty effective. Like it's a good movie.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (46:33.866)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (46:48.28)
Mm-hmm.

Eli Price (46:49.321)
And I mean, it's Robert Wise, like he's, he's got some pretty big hits, uh, on his, on his belt, so he knows what he's doing. Um, one that like I saw on some lists when I was like researching that I had completely forgot was an alien invasion movie is edge of tomorrow. Um, like just, yeah, just totally like forgot that one's that's another one I would like to revisit.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (47:09.775)
Oh, yeah, that one's totally an alien one. Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (47:16.45)
They've changed the title like three times. So that's probably why. I don't know why we, they should have just kept it all we, all you need is kill. Like the original manga. It's like the coolest name in the world.

Eli Price (47:18.417)
I know, it's so confusing. War of the Worlds, of course.

Eli Price (47:27.729)
Yeah, yeah, it is. Oh man. Yeah. Edges of Morrow. I remember loving that one. Um, you mentioned Prey. Uh, great, great one. Um, signs. Yeah. And Predator, of course. Uh, that's another one I haven't seen in forever. So, um, signs of course, and War of the Worlds. Uh,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (47:41.73)
Good one. And Predator, gosh, how nice is that one?

Eli Price (47:57.077)
just kind of like spitballing a bunch of them here. And then to complete the John Carpenter trifecta of Star Man, which we mentioned in the ET episode, a strange movie that I think I would like more if I revisited it. But yeah, great and really good performances by Jeff Bridges and Karen Allen.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (48:10.327)
Yes.

Eli Price (48:26.577)
that one. Yeah, you know what I put on my list? You know what I'm missing too that like I should have drafted one of these? Independence Day. People love Independence Day and I like it too.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (48:26.669)
Mm-hmm.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (48:37.984)
Oh, whatever.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (48:43.47)
Can there's a connection with independent state of feeders, uh, independence day, if you wanted to get it out at blockbuster and it was out, you were then directed to get feeders, which is definitely a disappointment, but it's because of that decision. Feeders was like the second highest rental at the same time as, uh, as, um, yeah, as independence day. Um,

Eli Price (48:46.871)
Okay.

Eli Price (49:04.569)
That's great.

Eli Price (49:09.817)
That's great.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (49:11.026)
And that's kind of the reason the Polonia brothers could do what they did is because they were able to do these like, Oh, Blockbuster just needs stuff on their shelf and now they do it with Tubi. So like they need selections out there. So.

Eli Price (49:19.38)
Yeah.

Yeah, to me.

Yeah, Independence Day, I, you know, it's been a long time since I've seen it, but I, I would probably enjoy it on rewatch. One that I should have taken honestly, just because like pure nostalgia, just like part of my childhood is Men in Black. Like complete over, complete oversight. Like I should have taken that just like, because it's such a big part of like my movie childhood.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (49:43.106)
That one's a good one. Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (49:52.754)
It bleeds 90s. Yeah, it's good stuff.

Eli Price (49:54.141)
Yeah, man, I'm regretting like my draft now because I didn't take... Technically Transformers is an alien invasion movie. Yeah, and then the one that I didn't get around to watching... there's two that I didn't get around to watching that... one is Contact...

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (50:01.235)
You got to take Lilo and Stitch out back. You got to take them to the part of the chat. Sorry, guys. Oh, yeah, those are aliens. Yeah, they're just robotic aliens. Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (50:22.267)
I've seen that. It's alright.

Eli Price (50:23.049)
Robert Zemeckis, a lot of people really like that movie. Um, and then the other one, um, that I didn't end up catching up with, cause I knew I was going to pick probably a rival if I could was, uh, Denis Villeneuve's Enemy is also, um, apparently an alien invasion movie. So I don't know if that's a spoiler, but cause I haven't seen it, but, uh,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (50:47.058)
It definitely seems to have something in it, but I could never understand from what I've read about it, if it's a like personification of a feeling or something. I just.

Eli Price (50:49.727)
Yeah.

Eli Price (50:56.085)
I don't know. I haven't seen it. It just showed up on a bunch of the lists that I was looking at. So yeah, those are, um, I know we just like, I'd have rattle through a bunch of stuff, but, um, but they're all ones that I feel like people should watch. So there you go.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (50:59.891)
Yeah.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (51:13.598)
If you pick one of any of these, you'll probably have a really good time. If you're going into the mindset that some of these we recommend you have, because if you if you're like, wow, they recommended 10 out of 10 movies, I'm going to watch theaters too now. Now, I'm going to check out. I'm going to check out all of them. Don't do that.

Eli Price (51:16.446)
Yes.

Eli Price (51:27.051)
Aha, yeah.

Eli Price (51:31.541)
Love it. Yeah, so that's our draft. Let me read out the final results before we go. Melvin ended up with the thing, feeders two, slay bells, no one will save you, killer clowns from outer space, and that's clowns with a K by the way, and AVP, Adelion versus Predator is official title. So that's Melvin's list.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (51:58.338)
Hmm.

Eli Price (52:02.425)
Uh, honestly, like a really fun list from this, from even though I haven't seen a couple of these, like really still sounds really fun. Um, and then, uh, my list is arrival, annihilation, the 1956 invasion of the body snatchers, the world's end and wrapping it up is Lilo and Stitch. Those are our two lists.

Um, be looking out for the poll that'll go up on all the social medias, um, and yeah, vote for, for who had the best one. Um, hopefully my cute little, uh, companion and alien that loves Elvis will, will pull it through for me. Um, or, you know, who knows maybe the, maybe the, uh, sleigh bells, um,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (52:47.23)
Go for mine. Do mine instead.

Eli Price (52:58.701)
the SLA why sleigh bells will threaten people to pick Melvin's, uh, Melvin's draft over mine. So who knows?

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (53:00.694)
Maybe it puts it in.

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (53:08.366)
Christmas cheer. Christmas cheer is going to win. Yeah, I forgot to mention it's during Christmas. I can't believe I forgot that. Yeah, I would hope so, but gosh. Oh man.

Eli Price (53:12.994)
uh yeah i mean the pun speaks for itself you know

Eli Price (53:22.461)
Oh man. Yeah, that's great. Uh, that's our draft. Um, that's all we have for this week. Um, don't forget to go check out, uh, cinematic doctrine. Um, he, Melvin is on, uh, Instagram and threads and, um, there's even, you didn't mention this in the last episode, but you do have a Facebook group as well. Um,

Melvin (Cinematic Doctrine) (53:47.106)
Yes, I personally am don't you I actually I do have Facebook down. I haven't used in so long A lot of people chatting there and talking there Which is cool Yeah, I don't I don't know why I stopped you oh I was off of soldiers media for like three years That's probably why but yes, there is also the group, too

Eli Price (53:51.863)
Yeah.

But yeah, a lot of the listeners are posting and talking in there. Yeah.

Eli Price (54:05.277)
Yeah. Uh, so that's out there. I'll make sure to link all of that in the episode description. So you can just go click it. Um, I'll, I'll link Melvin's letterbox too, so you can follow his, uh, letterbox reviews. Uh, but yeah, that's all we have for this week. Uh, we are going to be jumping into Indiana Jones and the temple of doom next week. Really looking forward to that. Um, one of my,

probably my least favorite of as of now. I maybe I'll change on rewatch of the Indiana Jones movies. Who knows? But yeah, looking forward to that discussion. That's all we have for this week though. Don't forget to go vote in the social media polls. Don't miss it. But until next time, I've been Eli Price from Melvin Benson. You've been listening to The Establishing Shot. We'll see you next time.