Feb. 9, 2024

Short Films Draft (w/ Chase Ables)

To accompany our discussion of Wes Anderson’s short films including The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar, we did a draft of our favorite short films. There are so many great short films from Maya Deren’s work to Pixar’s shorts. This was a fun draft and led to some great discussion. We hope this episode will work as a recommendations list for those of you who have never ventured into the world of short films!



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Transcript

Eli Price (00:00.726)
Hello, welcome back to the establishing shots a podcast where we do deep dives into directors and their filmography's. We are going to do a short film draft, a draft of short films. Yes, to kind of go along with the Wes Anderson shorts discussion we had here with Chase Abels,

Eli Price (00:29.61)
I'm excited. I watch into a ton of short films. It's like, so it's one of those things where I watch a lot of movies in pieces just because, you know, I'll have like 20 minutes when I'm eating lunch at work and I'll just like throw on something or something like that. But with this short films, it was like really easy to like, Oh, I can just watch this 12 minutes short, no problem. And then like, or like at night.

when I would usually turn on a movie, there was a couple of nights recently where I ended up watching probably like five or six short films just because like, oh, this is just 12 minutes. Oh, this is just 20 minutes. And so you just keep watching them. Yeah, I've been doing the same. Yeah. So it's been fun. I had seen some short films, but I really caught up on a lot of stuff in the past like two weeks.

Um, so that's been really fun. Um, but yeah, I want to chase to do this with me because he talks about short films a lot, just like in our conversations. And so I was like, Oh, out of all my friends, I'm, I'm almost positive. Chase has seen the most short films out of all of them. Uh, you've probably seen more short films than me for sure. Uh, I would be, I would like put money on it. Uh, cause until I did this, like I really, it was.

Really just like very sporadic short film watching for me. Yeah, we're gonna draft short films. I was gonna say to, for one, this is like a very, why it's not very specific. It's specific because of the length of the films and not a lot of people watch short films. And so,

I'm kind of like guessing that a lot of the films we're going to be drafting, like people have not seen even in like in an audience that's like listening to a film podcast. Sure. Uh, just because people don't ever like me personally, I love film, but I don't ever think about short films. I'm always like, Oh, I need to see this next feature film that's coming out. And that's mostly what I think about and try to watch and anticipate like a

Eli Price (02:55.918)
short films are kind of like back here and I don't ever think about them, you know. But this has been really cool, a cool experience just catching up on a ton of well-regarded short films these past couple of weeks. It's been really cool. I think it's, it's something that I'll probably definitely like keep, not, not in the same frequency as I have been, but definitely like make sure to like.

build into my film watching palette more often. It's a fun thing to do, it really is. I don't know, there's something about, a lot of times for short content, you'll kind of turn to TV or whatever, and I don't know, there's something satisfying about having a full media experience in that short amount of time, rather than just getting an episode of something. Right, yeah. Yeah, and I...

I've at this point in my life, like I hardly watch any TV at all. It's just like. Because it is like that, it's like I'm just getting a piece of something and like I feel I have like, I feel like I have maybe it's just a personality thing, I guess, like I have a completist mindset. And so like, I feel like I have to finish a TV show if I start it. I'm that way with books.

that can like put me off of starting a book because I have this like completed. I have to be all in before I start this book. Gotcha. And so that's probably, but yeah, it is that like, it is nice to not feel like, oh, now I have to watch the other like nine seasons of this. Like I can just watch the short film and it's done. That was the whole experience. Uh,

Yeah, that's nice. I didn't really think about it that way, but for sure. Yeah, that being the case, I really feel like this is going to be more of a recommendations draft. I'm still going to put the poll up and let people vote. I kind of feel like some of the things I have in mind might sway the vote.

Eli Price (05:13.662)
in my favorite, because Chase was like, I don't think people have seen any of the ones. And I'm like, well, I have a couple in mind that people have probably seen. But I have some I have a few that are at least, you know, names that people will know. So, you know, I don't know. Yeah, maybe so. But yeah, so we're going to. And the nice another nice thing about them being shorts is if somebody, you know, listens to the episode and one of them sounds like something they want to watch.

they can just hurry up and go watch it real fast before they vote. Exactly. Yeah. So look through the list, go watch all of them, and then vote. You don't have to watch all of them, but if you- Watch a few from each. Yeah. Get an idea. Uh, yeah. Uh, yeah, um.

And we're going to do, so there's sometimes like, you'll see maybe like an episode of a special episode of TV, a TV show up like as a short, like a quote unquote short film, like a letterboxed and I don't think we'll draft those. Yeah, I don't think I've got anything, any of those. I did watch a couple of old Looney Tunes shorts.

Uh, I don't, I'm not, I don't guess I'll draft those just because, um, they're more, I don't know that they're the intention of their release was like as a short film, it's sure as like a cartoon to watch on Saturday morning. Sure. Um, but, um, but yeah, I did, I did, uh, rewatch, um, two of, two of the, probably the most well regarded and two, probably two of my favorites that I remember from a child.

Um, and, uh, duck amuck with Daffy duck interacting with the illustrator. Uh, really great one. I've seen that both turns out it's bugs bunny. And then, um, uh, what's opera doc where, uh, it's Elmer Fudd and bugs bunny, um, doing the, um, it's the, I can't remember the opera piece it is, but it's, um, Elmer Fudd is playing, uh, Siegfried and, uh,

Eli Price (07:29.098)
Bugs Bunny is basically in drag as Brunhilde. And it's played as opera. And it's like the Elmer Fudd at the one point is doing a familiar tune, but he's singing, killed a rabbit, killed a rabbit. So that one's really great. That's probably one of my favorite Looney Tunes. I remember that, watching that as a kid, I'm loving it. Nice. But yeah, so.

Probably won't draft those. But yeah, otherwise, short films are on the table. We'll go ahead and put these West ones as the honorary mentions, since they were the discussion of the episode that spurred this draft on. I need to start putting that when I put the poll up, is make sure to mention, hey, we didn't draft these, because we talked about them for so many hours. Sure. But yeah, so.

We're going to be doing the drafts. I think we said we're going to do seven. We're going to draft seven each. And again, these are going to be maybe you've seen these if you're really into film and really like into watching short films. But if you're like me, you might not have seen these before. And I only saw them because I had this draft coming up. But yeah. So.

Take this as a recommendation list. And they're short films. You can just go film on during your lunch and watch it while you eat lunch. And it's like watching a TV episode. Most of these are anywhere from a few minutes to 30 minutes at the most. So yeah, really great. The way I usually do it is I'll do

with my guess is if you've been on before and you got the first pick, then I take the first pick when you come back on. So we'll do that. Fair enough. To stay consistent. So I'm going to do the first pick. It's tough. I actually have a few that I rated five stars. Five out of five. And so I guess I'll start with one of those.

Eli Price (09:56.443)
I'll do this. I'll pick the one that showed up on the site and sound top 100 list, the critics site and sound. And that's Maya Deren's Meshes of the Afternoon. It is a 1943 film directed by a female director, which is very rare in 1943. Yes. And Maya Deren was really like

a forerunner of the kind of avant-garde filmmaking movement that kind of happened in Europe kind of after that, after she kind of like had made her, she made several short films. Another one that's really good is called At Land that I really liked. And if you're unfamiliar with like avant-garde,

filmmaking or avant-garde art in general. It's kind of like, it's basically just like art that's disorienting or out of place or, you know, it's strange, it's kind of like, I guess the main thrust of it, it's very experimental. And so this, the narrative here is like of a woman, like returning home and falling asleep.

But then she kind of does it again, but she's already done it. And so she's starting to see herself in several iterations. And there's some strange things that happen. And there's even this sequence that is, well, it should be that the hallway fight in Inception is reminiscent of this. But it's actually, most people have seen

Inception and not this so it's like this is reminiscent of inception uh, but yeah, there's this like weird like Sequence where like the house the place she's in is like rotating and it's like gravity's weird And it's just all these strange things are happening um And it's just really cool filmmaking. It's just it's creative. It's basically a silent film. There's not any dialogue at all, right? Um

Eli Price (12:16.554)
You know, it has sound but there's no dialogue. So I Don't I don't know like where that lies on like is it a silent film or not? Like I guess it is but it also like has Sound that matches what you're seeing on screen sure But yeah, there's a lot packed in there I think it deals some with like psychological distress and depression visually

obviously since there's no dialogue. And maybe even something about the burden of patriarchy weighing down on the creativity of females in society kind of built into what's happening. Sure. When you watch it, that'll make more sense. Yeah. It's been a long time since I've seen this, but I have seen it before and I, yeah, it's very.

Striking. Yes, it's It's one of the things like these the Wes Anderson shorts. It's like wow I've never really seen something anything quite like that. Yeah on screen before And it's just It's an important it's one of those films. That's like it's really good and like you'll probably enjoy watching it and at least like respect the filmmaking, but it's also like important in film history to

And I think that's one of the reasons why it's started to show up on the site and sound list as You know a top 100 film and film history because of that. So yeah, it's a good one meshes in of the afternoon And I need to pull up Something where I can write down our draft results But yeah, you can go while I do that you want to take your first pick sure, uh, let's see

from my first pic.

Eli Price (14:16.59)
I am going to go with... I'm actually going to go with an early Martin Scorsese short. Oh, okay. I like it. What's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this? That's a good one. Uh huh. I watched that... I actually watched that just because I was on a Scorsese kick right around Killers of the Flower Moon. Gotcha. So it really didn't have anything to do with this draft, but I did watch it.

There were two Scorsese shorts that had come up, you know, just me kind of doing research for the draft. And this one and one called... The Big Shave? Big Shave, yes. Yeah, that one was disturbing. Yeah, I'm not going to put that one on the list. But this was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah, I'll...

Just for the setup, it's just like a guy kind of going out on his own, I suppose, for the first time, kind of like out in the big city and decorating his apartment. And he buys a picture for decoration and just kind of fixates on it. And it's just kind of like what this fixation kind of does with his life. And it's, I don't know, it's a lot of fun. It's really funny.

in several moments, like the way the main character narrates and just some of the visual gags that Scorsese does with it. It's really fun. Yeah, for sure. I really recommend it. Yeah.

Eli Price (15:56.59)
Sure.

Eli Price (16:00.078)
I'm gonna go.

CLEARS THROAT

Eli Price (16:06.194)
Yeah, that's a good one. Another score says, I don't think it quite qualifies as a short film. I think it's like right around 50 minutes. But he has a documentary, Italian American. Have you ever watched that? I have not. It's just him sitting at the kitchen table, like in the living room and at the table eating dinner with his parents and interviewing his parents.

It's really great. That sounds great. It's fantastic. That sounds charming. Yes, very much so. And funny. And even very sweet in some moments, too. Yeah, that's just a side recommendation. My second pick, I keep putting my phone where you can see my movies. I don't want you to see them. My second pick, I.

I've seen Meshes in the afternoon. I actually rewatched it for this. I watched it a while back, maybe a few years ago, maybe. But this one I've always known was a thing and haven't ever gotten around to it, and finally did for this draft. And it is called, well, so the English translation would be

the house of small cubes. But if you look it up on Letterboxd, I think it's, is it Japanese originally? What is it? Let's see. For whatever reason, I thought it was French. I know this, too. So it's Japanese. But if you look at most places, it actually has a French translation for the title, which is, la maison, empathie, cubes. I don't know how to say cubes in French.

Um, yeah, it's, I don't know why that's a strange thing about it. Uh, but I watched this while I ate lunch one day, like a week or two ago. And I don't know if you've ever tried to eat while you're weeping, but it's really hard. This is like a really like, it's one of those sweet, sad little stories.

Eli Price (18:24.714)
And it's basically, it's an animated short. It's this really cute old man. And it's a really cool world building, too. It's silent. So there's not any explaining of what's going on. But you come to realize that the world is just slowly flooding more and more, or at least this town where he lives.

And so like people have been like just keeping on building on top of their houses to like stay above the water. And so he drops like his pipe or something down, like, and there's these little like, um, hatches to like, you, where you can like go down, but it's like lower levels and it's underwater and he like drops his pipe and so he's diving down to do it, but as he does, he like is reliving.

In his mind like the memories of what was happening at that point of his life Where it was at that level and you're just like I'm like watching this like eating my lunch like weeping because it's like so sweet and so sad And you're like crying because of how sad it is, but you're also like crying because there's such like sweet happy memories And oh man, it's really good. It's really good

Super well-made. The animation is great. Yeah, highly recommend it. The House of Small. If you look up the House of Small cubes, you can watch a lot of these. I don't want to say a lot, but a good bit of these you can find on YouTube. Yeah, this one's definitely on YouTube, because that's where I watched it. But a lot of them are fine quality, obviously. It's probably not the best quality on YouTube. Sure.

But you get what you can find. So yeah, that's my second pick. The House of Small Cubes. I'm very glad that was on your list. I didn't say the director. And the pronunciation is going to be bad, because he's Japanese. Kunio Kato. Kato something. Anyways, yeah. Yeah, you were saying you're glad. Yes, yeah. I'm.

Eli Price (20:51.838)
A little bit kicking myself for not taking that as my first pick now, but I'm glad that one of us mentioned it. And I'm glad that I didn't realize you had seen it. I'm glad you've seen it. Yeah. That you love it because it's fantastic. It's one of those two that I've drafted so far. I have rated as five star. Yeah, I've got that rate as a five star as well. It's excellent. Okay.

Eli Price (21:21.587)
I'm going to go with a short called Crack by Frederick Bach. He's a Canadian animator. This is from 1980. And yeah, it's absolutely gorgeous. It's just the story of...

a guy who, like at the very beginning of the short, he builds a rocking chair. That's like the name of the short. It's like, comes from like him chopping down the tree to like make the wood. Like when the tree falls over, it says like the big letters come up and it says crack. Okay. And yeah, you know, he goes through like the whole process of making the chair. And then it's just kind of like you, like living.

like the whole lifespan of his family and his house from the perspective of this rocking chair. And then even the rocking chair's life past, whenever they finally end up getting rid of it and stuff. And I don't know, it's really, really gorgeous. It's really charming. I watched several of his shorts during, because I absolutely fell in love with this one and one of his others.

Eli Price (22:49.12)
But yeah, I highly recommend it. Very cool. Yeah, I hadn't heard of this. What's the director's name again? Frederick Bach. It's French spelling for Frederick, so it's F-R-E-D-E-R-I-C. Bach.

Gotcha. Okay. Yeah, I'm trying to find it so I can put it in my list. It's AC CR AC watch list added Very cool. Yeah

Seen the like this animation from the poster at least Very cool Yeah, I hadn't even heard of that one. So oh wait. This is the guy who did the man who planted trees Yes, I have not seen okay, but yes I haven't seen it either, but it's one that I was planning on getting around to and didn't The other the other one of his that I almost drafted is called the creation of birds

Okay, creation of birds. There we go. So we're getting like a lot of recommend- if you're if you're just looking at the poll on Instagram, you're just gonna get the seven. But if you listen, you're gonna get a lot of recommendations of shorts to watch. And now it's my turn and I don't know what to do. I'm gonna I guess I'll go ahead and stick with my five stars for now and

I don't know if you've seen these, so I'm hoping I can get these back to back. I'll start with the most, one of the most devastating movies I've ever watched ever. Okay. But it's just incredible filmmaking. It's a 32 minute short from 1956. It's a German.

Eli Price (24:51.698)
Well, no French French. Sorry. It's a French film Documentary basically by Alain Ren resonate, right man. The French is not coming out Which is sad because I live in Lafayette, Louisiana Elaine resnay called night and fog It is he doc

He's basically documents the atrocities and Hitler's concentration camps. Um, I, so there's, there's a bunch of archive footage, um, that he uses of. I like actual concentration camp footage, but then like it's juxtaposed with, he does some filming of those locations, um, in 1956, like those abandoned, those

Some of those locations are just abandoned. And there's all this growth, vegetation and growth happening and flowers and grass in this just abandoned place where these atrocities happened. And so he narrates. I don't know if he narrates it. No, it's another guy narrating. Michelle Bouquet. And it's like.

It's absolutely devastating to watch. But it's juxtaposed. It's devastating to the point where there were a few times where I couldn't look. I was watching some of the archive footage, obviously. Not just the locations are plenty fine to watch. But some of that archive footage is just what they're doing with bodies.

I couldn't watch it. But there's like this.

Eli Price (26:57.846)
I'm gonna read this quote that comes, I think, towards the end. It says, With our sincere gaze we survey these ruins as if the old monster lay crushed forever beneath the rubble. We pretend to take up hope again as the image recedes into the past, as if we were cured once and for all of the scourge of the camps. We pretend it happened all at once at a given time and place.

We turn a blind eye to what surrounds us and a deaf ear to humanity's never-ending cry. It's like, like I was watching that and like the narrator's like saying that and I'm just like, I'm devastated and weeping and like questioning everything and like, man, it's just, it's incredible. It's definitely, I would say probably one of the best short films ever made. Just.

Really really good So yeah, I don't watch it if you're not in a good place sure it's It's not it's not an easy watch by any means, but doesn't sound like it, but it's one of those where it's like I Wouldn't wish this watch on anyone, but also like it feels important to see Sort of thing that's yeah Yeah So that was my devastating one. I'll hopefully have a

I'm gonna have a sunnier one for my next pick unless you take it. Fair enough. Ummm... Hmm. From my next one...

Eli Price (28:35.694)
Hmm. I think I thought about not drafting this because it's a West short. Okay. That's fine. You can do a West short. I think I'm going to. You mentioning Italian Americans earlier kind of made me think, you know what, I'm going to go ahead and draft. Because I don't know, I feel like a lot of people will have not seen this just because of it being a short.

And it's my favorite West short, even with these four being out. This is still my favorite West short. Castello Cavalcanti. Yeah. The 2013 short by Wes Anderson about Jason Schwartzman as a race car driver. An Italian immigrant from living in America who's out in Europe doing some big race.

and just happens to break down in his family's hometown. Yeah. And it's, I don't know, it's so, I don't know, just the coincidence of everything and his deadpan performance through the whole thing. Yeah. I don't know. I absolutely love it. It's a fun one for sure. And it's an ad, I think. Is it? Several of his shorts are. Yeah. Like he has one that's an ad.

I can't remember what it's an ad for now that I'm trying to think but like at the end of it Like the brand comes up At least like the one I watched was they write there might be a version that exists that doesn't have that but The others that there's also the one that's like a Christmas on a train. Yeah, that one's it I know that one's an ad that one's an ad. It's like maybe for like H&M or somebody. Yeah It's it's definitely a

retail clothing place. Yeah, that one is really fun, the Castello Cavalcanti. Yeah, that's a fun one, the wrecked car. It might be a good one to pair with a Ferrari if you want to go watch Ferrari. Very different, but like old.

Eli Price (31:02.294)
Old race cars are wrecked and both. So that's great. OK, this is my fourth pick. And I'm going to now have a much sunnier pick. And I'm going to pick Agnes Varda's 1967 short Uncle Yanko. And so this is actually the very first. Agnes Varda is a.

French director that I've wanted to, you know, catch up with for a while now. Her most popular movie is a Cleo from five to seven, which is, is also on pretty high up now on the site and sound critics list. And she has some others that are really, really well regarded.

I don't think I've heard of her. So I'll definitely be putting this on the list. Yeah. But this is a Uncle Yanko is, so this is the first of any, I'll actually watch three of her shorts because I liked this so much. I was like, oh, I've got to fit in some more Agnes Varda shorts. Nice. And I'll get a feature in here soon because I'm like, I love these. So I've got to love the features. But Uncle Yanko is this 18 minute short.

She is in, yeah, she's in, she's French, but she's in San Francisco. And she has this like, he's actually like kind of a distant cousin, but she calls him uncle, that he's an old man that lives in, that immigrated to San Francisco. And I think he's maybe like her dad's cousin or something like that.

And she like reunites with him. They've never met before, but like, he's like, oh, you're so and so's daughter. And she's like, yeah. And he, so he's like this Dutch French guy, old man that's like living in San Francisco in this like water community. They all live in like boats and houseboats. And like, he's friends with

Eli Price (33:22.462)
like all the hippies and like has them over to his place. And, but like what I found from watching these few Agnes Varda shorts is she, she is like really incredible at like finding something like very thought provoking within like mundanity. And so she's just like having these normal conversations with uncle Yonko, but.

it turns into this reflection on life and relationships. And it's just really like, I was watching it, and I was like, this is really interesting and thought-provoking. And also the subject matter is very, I said I'm turning to a more sunnier one. He's like the sweetest dude, like the old dude, and he's so humble and sweet and like.

has some like, you know, old man like wisdom that he shares and it's just like, it makes you smile like. And there's this line where she's eating at a restaurant with him and you know, there's some people he knows like that eat there all the time too and you know, she's narrating it also. And she says,

Eli Price (34:55.488)
My uncle wanted to take me in public, so his friends could see him with me. And I want to document my uncle so people can sit in a dark theater and watch him. And I was like, oh, that's so cool. That's just such a like. But it's like.

The way she delivers it, it's like much more profound than what I just said. But it's like, I just loved it. And it's a sweet short film and also like very like thought provoking. So yeah. I'm not gonna draft more than one of hers, but I actually rated that one five stars and another one called Along the Coast, which is, she was actually like

Um, asked to make like a travel documentary for the French Riviera. And it's like, but when you watch it, it's very like tongue in cheek. Um, like.

very like French humor tongue and cheek. You can tell she's like, all right, I'll make this for you, but I'm making it very like it's not going to be like, come to sunny French Riviera. It's very like French, like cutting humor about the state of things. That's great. Yeah. I loved that one. And then there was one called Ulysse.

And it's this like reflection on this picture she had taken of this nude guy and a kid on the beach and there's a dead goat also laying in there in the picture and she's like reflect she goes back and talks with the The man that was in the picture and then the boy who's now like an adult with a family of his own and the boy's mom

Eli Price (37:03.082)
Like, she goes back and interviews them about the picture and stuff, and even reflects on the dead goat. And it's a really good one, too. Thanks. So those are three. Agnes Varda, the one I'm drafting, Uncle Yanko, though, was my favorite of those three. So yeah, that's my fourth pick. Cool. Let's see. From my fourth pick.

I'm gonna go with...

Eli Price (37:40.699)
I don't know. I feel like George Millier, or however you say his name, needs to come up at some point in this conversation. I don't know if you have something on your list or not. But so the one I'm going to pick, his most famous one by far would be Journey to the Moon. Yeah, Trip to the Moon.

Eli Price (38:09.502)
Recommending one that isn't that since I suppose that's kind of the obvious one that people will have seen Yeah, if they were heard of or heard of at least yeah, I'm going to recommend one From 1899 called the devil in a convent, okay As a lot of his shorts or a lot of his I don't know that they would have been conceptualized as shorts at the time They were just films. Yeah a lot of his films

Eli Price (38:39.726)
uh, the devil as like a main character, just in kind of like an old, uh, almost like vaudeville type, you know, theatrical, uh, kind of, you know, it's an excuse to have a character that's, you know, like turning capers and doing, you know, weird conjuring tricks and stuff. So that's, that's exactly what it is. It's uh, it starts out with, you know, a bunch of nuns praying in the convent.

And then the devil shows up and does a bunch of hijinks. And the thing with George Millier's films, I'm just gonna roll with how does the pronunciation, the way that you, the way his films work is, it's a lot of just him being playful with editing and cutting and just like, just trying to make the most fun thing that you can put on film.

And that's exactly what this is. You just have things appearing out of nowhere, through the magic of film. And then at the very end, priests come in and drive him back into hell. And it's great. It's fun. That's awesome. Remind me the name of it again? The Devil in a Convent.

Le Diable, I'll comment, I suppose. In French, yeah. Yeah, I've only seen of his films, The Trip to the Moon. I take that back. I saw like, I've seen a one minute one from like 1899 that I can't think of what it's called, but it's basically just like.

the devil dancing around a cauldron. But the trip to the moon is a good one to watch as well. It is. It's pretty inventive. And it's basically these wizard scientists that decide they're going to go to the moon, and they bring back an alien. And things don't go well, I guess.

Eli Price (40:59.678)
I don't know how many of that, again, that's the only one really I've watched. But I pulled that up on Max because it was on there and started watching it. This was like last year, I think I watched it. And it was in color, kind of. Yeah, I was so confused about it. And I stopped and I was like, there's no way this is in color. And so I went and looked it up.

To be sure the dude paint the dude painted every fame of the film. Yes P in color How ridiculous is that? No, it's fantastic So the Martin Scorsese film Hugo, yeah, I don't know if you remember but he's like the George Millie is like

a character in that movie. He had the big Kingsley character is that's who that is. Gotcha. And I remember when I had seen that film, his wife, the character that plays his wife, she's talking to Hugo, the little boy after he's found them and kind of explaining who they were and what they used to do. And that's one of the things she mentions is like,

Oh, yeah, we would go through and meticulously hand paint every piece of film that left our studio. That is absolutely wild. Yes. Wild, wild. Yeah, yeah, George Millier definitely needs to be mentioned and represented here. And so does one of my I guess one of my favorite filmmakers ever in Buster Keaton. Absolutely.

Have not so I've seen all of his features and I've seen a good chunk of his shorts I haven't seen all of them. The only one I watched the first time for this was the goat Which was really good But my favorite it's my favorite of his shorts that I've seen so far and also just one of my favorite things he's ever Done even with his features is the 1920 short one week

Eli Price (43:25.138)
It is about this, um, uh, newlywed couple, um, showing up to their plot of land that they got and they have a, um, like DIY house basically in a box. And so they have to like build their house and there's just this box sitting in on this plot of land that they've, that they've bought. Uh, and, um, yeah, it's.

The title is one week because it's like one week the first week of their marriage and then building this house and trying to have a normal domestic life but obviously it's Buster Keaton so the house the house building doesn't go so well nor does do things go well once the house is built. Right. Actually watch this with my son. Maybe like maybe like a couple years ago he's for almost five now and I want to say he was probably three.

Maybe when he watched this with me and he loved it. There's a, there's a sequence where the house is like literally spinning and, uh, like the whole house is spinning and he loved that. Um, but, uh, yeah, I wonder what he would think about it now that he's, things change a lot from three to five. But, uh, but yeah, there's not a minute that passes in this whole 20 minutes that I wasn't like,

Chuckling or laughing out loud and then like it has like a really sweet like take on marriage to like they kind of like walk off into the like they kind of like throw the cares of like a normal quote-unquote domestic life Like over their shoulder and walk off like hand in hand at the end. It's like really sweet and I guess I guess I guess should say spoiler alert, but I mean it's

It's not, it was made in 1920 guys, like you can't spoil 1920 movies. Um, and it doesn't really take away from, to know that doesn't really take away from, like there's not a suspense of, are they going to stay together? Really? It's sure. Um, yeah, I just love it. It's, it makes me smile. It's, it's hilarious. And Buster Keaton is one of my favorites. So I had to take one of his. Absolutely.

Eli Price (45:53.466)
That was my fifth, so this is gonna be your fifth. Okay. For my number five, I'm going to go with...

Eli Price (46:06.062)
Hmm. It's hard. It is. Ah.

Eli Price (46:15.37)
Okay, we both just had really old picks. I'm gonna go with a fairly, I guess not super new pick, but a very different feeling pick, certainly. I'm gonna go with 2015's Kung Fury by David Sandberg. I do not know this one. This is, so it's a parody of like 80s cop movies. Okay.

The setup is there's this cop who one night on duty, there had been some sort of freak accident and he had gotten struck by lightning and he gets these supernatural Kung Fu powers. All right. And his partner died the same night. So he's jaded and bitter and he's the best cop on the beat.

But he's always being too hard on the criminals. So the chief is constantly threatening to take him off the job. And anyhow, it turns into a time traveling adventure of him going back in time to try and stop Hitler from. Okay. From.

Invading the future That's great. And yeah, it's that's why it's as over-the-top and insane as it sounds and it's It's a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah, okay, that's great So that's kongfury kongfury, yep, love it. All right My next pick I'm It's hard. I only have two more

And there's, I watched so many good ones. And so it's kind of hard.

Eli Price (48:21.586)
OK, I'll do this. I'll go ahead and I'm going to be leaving out some that I really, really thought were phenomenal. But I'm going to go ahead and take, now it's a question of which one. I'm going to go ahead and draft a Pixar short. And the reason why is because that's like, I guess Pixar shorts are kind of like foundation level to my growing up.

I was born in early 90s. And so when Toy Story came out, I was a kid that wants to go see movies, animated movies. And so I have memories of these shorts, all growing up, seeing them before the features. And so I guess it's more of a nostalgia pic. One of my f-----

Favorites and you can draft this I don't know if I'm like ruining the draft by mentioning it One that I'm not probably the one that I like the most is bow That was great with the dumpling. I love it. It's it's like sweet and sad but like really sweet and like really funny At the same time. Yes, I'm not gonna draft that one. I'm gonna draft the one that like

I've always remembered from my childhood and I'm going to take Jerry's game. I love Jerry's game. It's great choice. It's so funny. Um, it makes me laugh. It's like creative. It's just the four, this four minutes short of an old man playing himself. That's like, that's all there is to it. And it's hilarious. Um, and, uh, I've always like, it's one of those that like, I guess comes to mind randomly.

just because it's something from my childhood that I remember seeing. And it's not by any means the first Pixar short, but it is a very early one. And I think it's the first one that was released, attached to the front of a movie, if I'm not mistaken. I think you're right. Is that in front of Bugs Life? I think so, yeah.

Eli Price (50:45.87)
Toy Story didn't have one in front of it, but then Bugs Life did. This was the one in front of Bugs Life. And I definitely know that I saw Bugs Life in theaters and would have seen this in theaters too. So just like a nostalgia pick. And this is like one of the picks that I was talking about where like the votes may sway in my direction because most people probably will recognize Jerry's game. Probably. But yeah.

Like I said, I'm trying to get some variety here there's other shorts that I like that I think are like much better like Film then Jerry's game sure, but it's the nostalgia factor for me and trying to get some variety But yeah, that was my six pick only have one more Now it's your six pick Okay from my sixth pick

Eli Price (51:46.318)
tough. There's still a lot of great ones. There are. We're going to have to do a lot of honorable mentions. I'm going to go with...

Eli Price (52:00.218)
This wouldn't necessarily be one that people have necessarily seen, but it's names that they'll know. So I might get some points back for this one. Wise choice. I'm going to go ahead and draft Vincent by Tim Burton. Yeah, Vincent. It's a good one. It's a very good one. 1982, Tim Burton as a young up-and-comer.

a young up and coming animator at Disney. Yeah. And it's just a love letter to Vincent Price. And I love Vincent Price. So I'm happy to draft it. Yeah. It's just a little boy named Vincent whose goal in life is to be just like Vincent Price. And so he's just, you know, being creepy and strange in all the ways you would expect a little boy in an early Tim Burton short to be. Sure.

And it's, you know, it's hand drawn in a way that, you know, just makes sense for a Tim Burton movie and narrated by Vincent Price, which is, he always does a great job with any voice work he gets. Oh, yeah. But especially in this, like, he's got some really fun, like the way he says his own name in this is so much fun.

Yeah, it's good. It's a fun one. I watched it. I had never seen it before. I watched it in prep for this. It wasn't like on towards the top of my list, but I did enjoy it. I didn't enjoy it a lot. Yeah, Tim Burton. It's funny. It's funny to think about him as like a Disney animator. And like I actually was like listening to a podcast about

Nightmare Before Christmas recently and like Disney did not want anything to do with that movie Until like it blew up and then they were like, oh, yeah like it they actually like their original Film didn't have Disney. No, they put it out under like they distributed it but they put they put it out under Sir was not search slide. No one of their other like

Eli Price (54:23.106)
things that they own. Yeah, the same distribution company they owned that they had put Rushmore out through, actually. OK, yeah. And it wasn't until like, you can still, it's probably like a collector's item now to get the original VHS or DVDs or whatever that don't have the Disney logo before the movie.

But yeah, if you watch it on Disney Plus now, of course it has the castle and everything. They're proud of it now that it's blown up. Yeah, originally they were scared. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Who was the other guy that was in that era of Disney with Tim Burton? There's another popular guy. I can't think of who it was. Oh, um, Bluth. Don Bluth.

Is that who you're thinking of? Maybe. I don't know. But it was like, with Disney, there was like basically two schools within the Disney animation school. And there's like the experimental one and then the narrative one or something like that. But it was like these clicks, these animation clicks. It's really funny to think about. But yeah.

Tim Burton as a Disney animator is a very funny idea. It really is. But he loved it. He worked on Fox and the Hound, which is crazy to think about. But yeah, Vincent is a good choice. I do have one. I have the two animated ones now. Man.

This is really tough. Really, really tough.

Eli Price (56:25.666)
There are actually a few more animated ones that I would love to take, two of which are very nostalgic and hilarious and I think are still really, really good. But I think I'll do those in honorable mentions. And there's a bit of a theme here in that.

The French really make some great short films. But I'm going to take La Ballon Rouge, or the Red Balloon. Did you catch up with this one? I have not, but I've heard of it. Oh, man. It's directed by Albert Lemerees. And I'm realizing the little boy in this movie is Pascal Lemerees. And I wonder if it was his son. I would imagine so.

I bet it was. But it's just it's 34 minutes short. It's about this little boy who comes across this red balloon. And it's a very like the way that everything is like filmed is very like drab. And so the red balloon really, really stands out. But he comes across this red balloon. It's like caught on a lamp post or something. And he climbs up.

and gets it down and carries it around town. He's going to school, so he gets the janitor to hold it for him for the day, and then takes it home with him, and his mom or whatever throws it out. She's like, no, you can't have the balloon. But then the balloon becomes this fantastical balloon that has a mind of its own and follows him around, and all the kids are like.

love the balloon, but they also like, it becomes like all the kids like decide they don't like this that the balloon is attached to this one kid and so they're going to try to destroy the balloon. And so they're like chasing him and he like, he'll like let go of the balloon and like go somewhere else. And but the balloon still like comes back to him. It's like a really, really sweet. And then there's this, there's this like sad moment that's like immediately like

Eli Price (58:50.054)
overblown with this really sweet and phenomenal moment that I don't want to give away. It visually is just awesome, and it makes you smile. Really, really sweet little short film about a boy and his magic balloon. Thanks. I'll catch up with this soon. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely one that I think you'll love. Cool.

I think most people would like it. It's on Max and Criterion, I think. OK. Criterion channel and Max. So Max is pretty accessible. But yeah, that's my last pick, which is sad because there's so many more I want to pick. But yeah, it's your last pick. This is it. Oh, boy. You're just going to have to bite the bullet and take one because that's what I had to do. Yeah.

Eli Price (59:50.51)
Neither of us have mentioned any stop motion in this, so I'm going to go with a stop motion pick. That's a good point. I'm going to go with Paul Barry's The Sandman. OK. I don't know this one. So this is a 10 minute short. It's a silent short. And it's very much like a horror short. It's um.

you know, the idea of the Sandman is like, you know, the creature that comes and, you know, messes with your dreams at night and stuff. So it's a little boy and his mother living in this huge, you know, great big house. And it really captures like the, that sense of, you know, fear of like,

being a child at night, like up way later than you should be, just can't sleep, and kind of that kind of like creeping feeling of what's going on in the dark, what's that creaking in the house, and all that. And yeah, the use of the claymation is great. The models are great. The guy that directed it, he went on

Eli Price (01:01:20.246)
Uh, Oh, why can't I think of his name? Uh, the guy that did, uh, Nightmare Before Christmas. Yeah. Henry Selick. He went on to work with Henry Selick a good bit. So, uh, his model work is fantastic. Um, uh, the, the Sandman character is very creepy looking and memorable looking. And it's a short that's really going to stay in your mind after you've seen it.

That was cool. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah, I'm glad we got one stop motion in there. Because yeah, we really did leave that out.

Eli Price (01:02:02.902)
Man, it's crazy how many honorable mentions I want to mention. I don't know that we can do all of them. But yeah, there's a lot of great short films out there. And a lot of them, some of them are pretty hard to find. But a lot of them are very accessible.

You can find a lot of short films on YouTube. You really can I don't know how or why I guess because like I Guess cuz production companies maybe don't like hold on to rights for those like they do for features Maybe or maybe there's I don't know maybe something to do with like distribution. Maybe that's just not something They're concerned about ever making money on yeah. Yeah, it's I don't know what it is but a lot of them are just

Sitting there on YouTube. Yeah but uh, yeah and Then like some like some are actually like worth like doing a free trial on some of these streaming places for always use a Don't know if just watch calm has short films. I would imagine they do but I use just watch all the time to figure out Where something is streaming or rentable, you know, sure

Yeah, I bet that's a good resource. Yeah. Let's do some honorable mentions. Sure. I'll mention, I'll talk about those few of the ones that I mentioned that were animated. They're animated ones that are very nostalgic for me. One is called Rejected. And Don.

Don Hertz felt Don Hertz felt he has a lot of like animated shorts. They're like very like crudely not in a like gross sense, but like in a stick figure sense, animated. And I really like his tone. I wish more of his were more easily accessible. They're kind of some of them are hard. Like you can watch a couple on his YouTube channel.

Eli Price (01:04:26.562)
But some of them are kind of hard to get to find. They're not like streaming anywhere. It's just hard to find some of his. Sure. And so I wish they were more accessible. But if you go in, his name is Don Hertzfeld. So that's H-E-R-T-Z-F-E-L-D-T. And you can just probably search him on YouTube. And he has like.

He has probably like four or five of his shorts on his YouTube channel that you can watch. One of them is called Rejected that I just mentioned. It is a compilation of animated TV commercials that were rejected because of their creator's failing grip on sanity. And it's actually a 2001.

Academy Award nominee for best animated short film. That's great. And I remember these from when this came out in 2000. And I remember watching these when I was in like, I don't know if I watched them in elementary, but I definitely remember like from middle school watching these. Probably the most popular. So I'm not sure if these were actually submitted.

as it's framed within the short as like, the Johnson and Johnson asked me to write some commercials for them and these were rejected. And then it'll show like some of them. And I think that's just a framing device. I don't think these places actually asked him to make these commercials for him. That's great. But I don't know that for sure. Maybe they did, I don't know. But.

But you watch them and you're like, yeah, anyone would. One of them is just this stick figure guy standing there. And there's a bowl of cereal. And he has these giant spoons. Well, one giant spoon. And he just keeps saying, my spoon is too big. And then a banana guy walks on screen. And he says, I'm a banana. And then it does the ad for whatever.

Eli Price (01:06:47.918)
For the I think it's just a bunch of stuff like that That's like bizarre and like one of them big the guys are like I think it's like a Johnson or maybe like a food thing that he's and like they eat it But then they just they just like start like puking blood on each other This is bizarre Way out there like animations, and I remember watching these in middle school

Is like the funniest thing in the world and I like even now like I watch it. I'm like, this is really funny But he has a few like world of tomorrow He has like a series. There's like world of tomorrow two and three I think but it's like this a little girl and her future self comes to the past and like is like explaining all these philosophical things to her

But she's like three and She's just like ooh, it's green now. It's like it's just really funny and probably like a profound reflection of like time and like Matured like the way we mature and like what's important in life Underlying but really like just funny another one of his

is it's actually, I think, mashed together three ones into a feature length. I'm trying to find the one that's on his YouTube channel is the first one. They were originally released as shorts, but they involve the same character. And so I think he just packaged them as a feature. It's called Everything Will Be OK. And it's just about this guy, Bill. And I think it's a feature.

Him like reckoning with just like the meaning of life. It's a stick. It's a stick. They're all stick figure stuff But yeah, his stuff is great and then the other one is Called history of the entire world I guess by Bill where it works and it's literally like this animated like very sarcastic Telling of the history of the world and it's just really funny So I love that one

Eli Price (01:09:09.438)
And then I'll do a few more like more serious ones. La Jete is a film that's actually like, it's this like, it's really incredible. It's not a motion film, it's actually like a collection of still images that is narrated a story over of this man who's recalling a memory of himself.

as a boy seeing this woman and kind of being infatuated, but also like witnessing a man dying. And then it goes on to like be this thing where it's like this post-World War III and like he's being experimented on traveling through time by these scientists. And he like goes into the past and spends time with this woman that he saw. And then he goes into the future and like, it's like...

It's really inventive and interesting storytelling. And it's done with these sequences of still images, what would normally be shown as moving images is shown with still images. And it's this interesting way of thinking about film as an exercise in editing and how you're editing together still images, whereas normally it would be moving. But it's still like,

the way you edit together those still images is still functions in the same way. But also the story is really interesting and profound and really good. So yeah, I highly recommend that. La Jete. It's L-A-J-E-T-E-E, directed by Chris Marker. That's from 1962. And then I'll do two more.

even though there's a lot of them that I really like. One is a documentary by a female Iranian director. And it's basically this documentary in support of this group that runs a camp for lepers. Like it's a leper colony. And...

Eli Price (01:11:38.87)
It's really incredible. She goes in and obviously a lot of the people that have leprosy have these deformities and just aren't great to look at. I mean, there's people with messed up skin and boils and just, it's not fun to look at. But what she does is she goes in and she talks about their daily life.

And it's like these images juxtaposed of their kind of pain and suffering and like the way this disease is like messed up the way they look juxtaposed with how they are still like in this colony, they're human beings and they have lives and they do jobs and they like play games together.

And it's just like this really cool juxtaposition that like is a very like Just it just shows the humanity of These people in this leper colony like so incredibly well I thought like the imagery and the narration was just really good for that It's called I didn't say the name of it. Did I it's all biggie. It's called the house is black Yeah, it's by for Rue for us a cod

Farooqzade, and I probably butchered that name, but she's an Iranian director.

Eli Price (01:13:18.45)
Well, I say that she's directed two things. It's all. But still, I didn't write any new director. Yeah. You direct one thing, you're a director. And this is what I didn't mention. She's a poet. And so some of it is narration and some of it is her reading some of her poetry over like the visuals, which is really cool. That is really cool. And then the last one I'll mention.

is one that I really liked. It's called Daybreak Express by D.A. Pennybaker. It's from 1953. It's this really beautiful five-minute short of a third avenue elevated subway station in New York City that's soon to be demolished.

It's just like, and it's set to like the music as Duke Ellington's Daybreak Express, which is the name of the film too, which is a very like train sounding jazz piece. And it's like, it's just basically like him capturing everyday life, like at the station, on the train of

like the train, you know, from third person. But it's just like the music, like with the visuals are just like really like fun and cool. And I just think it's like really beautifully filmed. It's a lot of like silhouette with like sunsets and stuff. And I just watched it and I was like, that was really, really cool. It's just five minutes.

Yeah, I really enjoyed that one. And I'm going to be done now. Obviously, there's like Christmas shorts, which we drafted in the Christmas draft. For sure. Like Charlie Brown and Grinch and Frosty and all those. All those are great, but I didn't want to draft them here. OK, for me, for honorable mentions, let's see. There's so many. I could keep going forever, but nobody wants to listen to two hours of honorable mention.

Eli Price (01:15:37.935)
Things that I particularly want to mention would be... Okay, you mentioned Looney Tunes at the beginning of the episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were some good ones. So I'm going to kind of go with that same vein, but I'm going to go with... Okay, well you've covered Warner Brothers. I'm going to take the two other old classic animation houses with Disney and Fleischer.

My Disney short that I'm going to recommend is going to be a goofy cartoon called How to be a Detective. Where it's just a narrator kind of telling you how to be a detective, trying to tell you how to do it well, and goofy's the one on screen so obviously he's not doing it well. Yeah, I think I've seen that before. And then for Fleischer Studios, the short that I'll recommend is

is called Dancing on the Moon. Okay. So they're kind of two famous properties where Popeye and Betty Boop. Gotcha. I don't find their animation, to me their animation is lower quality than Disney and Warner Brothers. Sure, yeah. This being one of the exceptions, this is gorgeous from beginning to end. But also the main reason that I love it so, so much is the song in it. Okay.

I don't know how it never got done as like a pop music release of the time, like in the thirties, but it never did. But it's just an earworm. Like I know that you like me, like I'll just go around like whistling all the time and I know you do too. This is one of my go-to like songs to whistle. Is the same, is Dancing on the Moon from the short Dancing on the Moon. And it's a lot of fun.

Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, I'll have to check that one out. I'm pretty sure I've seen the goofy one before but yeah I'll have to check that one out for sure Hmm other standouts One I'll recommend is a 2018 short from Portugal called how Fernando Pessoa saved Portugal. It's about a guy who

Eli Price (01:18:01.03)
He's a writer for a newspaper and he gets the job to run the first Coca-Cola ads for Portugal. Okay. And the Portuguese government is looking for an excuse to ban this, you know, new American fad product and they seize on his advertisement as the thing they're going to use to make it illegal. And it's very deadpan and it's, as far as I know, it's a true story. Okay.

I don't know. It's just, it's a strange story and it's delivered. It's filmed and delivered very well.

Eli Price (01:18:40.482)
I'll also mention one that I had watched earlier this week actually is one called Dear Basketball. It's an animated short that it's Colby Bryant, like right when like whatever he decided to retire, he wrote a poem called Dear Basketball and it got made into an animated short and he

It's just him reading the poem over it. It was an Oscar for that one. Yeah, for good reason. It's gorgeous. Yeah, I've seen pieces of it, but I don't think I've watched the whole thing. So I need to watch that. And then I'll also go ahead and mention a movie that I watched a couple months ago called Wasp. It's a 2003 movie. That was on my list and I didn't get around to it.

Andrea Arnold is the director. It's a British movie. Very, very good. It's just a kind of a day in the life story of a young single mother who's got like five kids and just kind of struggling her way through life and.

Trying to be a bad mom, failing to be a bad mom, but in, I don't know, it's a good watch. Yeah. Even though she's just doing a terrible job, you're still rooting for her and sympathetic for her. Sounds kind of like the Florida Project, but with less kids. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever heard...

know anything about that movie. Yeah, it's a great it's I love that movie. But yeah, I said I was done. I did want to mention a couple two more very quickly. One is Louise Boon, Boon Wells, Unchian and Lou, which is a avant-garde surrealist film that's like, if you just want to watch a short

Eli Price (01:21:00.574)
16 minute film and then And it ends and you're like what in the world did I just watch then this is the one for you fair Because when it says surrealist it is to the nth degree It's it's wild it ended and I was like, I don't know what in the world I just watched but I do know that it was very well made Um, the other one is more straightforward. It's um, It's uh

by a Polish director. I don't know that I should try to say this name. I think it's just Krzysztof Kieslowski. That's my pronunciation anyways. And it's just called Talking Heads. And I thought it was really interesting. Basically, he has three questions. He finds different P. He asks, who are you?

What do you want? It's just two questions. I thought it was three. Who are you and what do you want from life? I think the way he phrases it in the actual film is like, what do you wish for? Who are you and what do you wish for? And he asks, over the 15 minutes short, he asks people starting with a one-year-old who obviously doesn't answer the questions but just makes noises.

Um, all the way up to a 100 year old lady. And so it's, he doesn't, he doesn't ask, like, it's not like there's a hundred people. Sure. It just, it jumps in ages, but it progressively gets, they progressively get older, the interviewees, um, as, as the film goes on and you end with the a hundred year old lady and it's just like really, really interesting to hear people's answers. Um, some of them are like.

just very simple. Some of them are very young and trying to sound profound. Some of them are profound. It's just a really interesting concept, I think. But yeah, that one's talking heads. And then there's a lot of other great things. We could go on for a long time. We could. If you want to watch an interesting that came out,

Eli Price (01:23:25.746)
Interesting one that came out last year that you can just watch on YouTube I think it's on the New York Times YouTube actually. Okay, because they did a piece on it. It's by an Israeli director you have winner it's called the boy and The the interesting story behind this one is Winter Had put this movie out

And he actually was killed by Hamas raid this past year. Because I mean, I don't know if it was that one or something. I can't remember. I read a good bit of the article that The New York Times did on him, along with the putting out the movie on YouTube.

Eli Price (01:24:25.278)
He was one of those guys that was constantly like talking and thinking about the humanity of everyone. That's just like common people trying to deal with that situation on both sides. And it really like comes through in the film. It's just about this boy in this Israeli family that like is.

He obviously has some sort of PTSD, or he has some sort of mental anxiety or something going on. That's not expressly stated, I don't think, that he's taking pills for. But he is constantly doing these walks along the fence line and looking at the other side. And there's this constant sirens.

that happened, you know, all the time and there's constant like, just explosions happening in the background. And it's like, it's, it's really good. And it, I think it's probably true to based on what his wife, you know, said in interviews and stuff, true to like, his mindset of the way he thought about that whole situation and more and everything. But

Eli Price (01:25:51.626)
Stretch your limits and like watch a film that you know Talks about hard sub a hard subject. Yeah a hard subject matter By someone that was in the middle of it then yeah, that's a really good one the boy by a half winner Yeah, and that one's just on YouTube Pull it up today Yeah, that's our short film movie draft

I'm going to read out our results. I ended up with Meshes of the Afternoon, The House of Small Cubes, Night and Fog, Uncle Yonko, One Week, Jerry's Game, and The Red Balloon. And Chase ended up with What's a Girl Like You Doing in a Place Like This, Crack, Castello Cavalcanti, The Devil in a Convent, Kung Fury,

Vincent and the Sandman. And obviously, all of these will end up in the poll. People will vote. They probably haven't seen most or all of these. Most people have probably seen Jerry's game. I would think so. Yeah. And most people know Tim Burton. True. Most people know Martin Scorsese. That's true. Yeah. So you've got those two going for you.

But yeah, well, it'll be fun to put this out. And maybe people will cue some of these up and watch them. But yeah, I think that's it for our movie draft. It would have been interesting, I think, to allow shorts that are in anthology movies. Sure. But that's a whole different thing. That is. Because there's some really good ones out there that are in anthology movies. Like.

For some reason the one that comes to mind is the Ballad of Buster Scruggs. Oh yeah. Which those are all pretty much standalone shorts that are collected in the anthology. Right. But when you were talking about the Sandman and the stop motion and kind of horror aspect, it made me think of The House, which I kind of think I drafted in our stop motion draft, if I'm not mistaken. But it came out...

Eli Price (01:28:21.614)
2022 maybe? OK. And it's an anthology of stop motion. Two of the three are definitely like, I would definitely consider a horror of some sort. And one that's maybe a little less so. But yeah. But yeah, that would be interesting to include some of those. For sure. Maybe sometime you'll do an anthology draft.

I do have some anthology, an anthology episode for Spielberg because he directed a piece of the Twilight Zone movie and the Amazing Stories feature film that came out. He directed part of that. So maybe we'll do an anthology movie draft. Yeah, there you go. I don't know if I've seen enough anthology movies to do a full draft, but we'll see. We'll see.

I well, I know you've seen all the package film era Disney movies. That's true. But there's not very many good ones. But I have seen them. Yeah. But but yeah, that's it for the short film draft. Go watch some short films. It's fun. I've enjoyed this and I'm going to keep watching short films every once in a while and make that a part of my watching routine.

So yeah, this has been a good endeavor for me for sure. And I know Chase already watches short films pretty regularly. I do. But yeah, this was fun, Chase. Thanks for coming on. Absolutely. This was a lot of fun. Yeah. We'll share your letterboxed again. Your letterboxed is chable, C-H-A-B-L-E-S. And the link will be in the show notes. There's not anywhere else you want. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not.

I'm not very active on social media. So if you want to go stare at some pages that don't get anything posted on them, you can look up the same handle on most things. But yeah, Letterboxd. Letterboxd is the place to be anyways. It really is. It's very useful.

Eli Price (01:30:42.846)
It's useful and like there's a, there's a, if you like actually start following people and commenting, there's a cool like little community there too. For sure. Um, yeah, that's, that's it. That's our short film draft. Um, it was also fun talking about the West Anderson shorts. So if you haven't listened to that portion, make sure to check that out. But, uh, but yeah, it's been fun. Um, yeah, I I've been Eli Price.

For chase Abel's you've been listening to the establishing shot and we will see you next time